Warning about Pentecostal movement. It's not legitimately Christian. When the disciples asked Jesus of the sign of his coming & end of the world, 1st thing he cited was religious deception: "Take heed that no man deceive you... many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many." (Matt.24) Such is Kim Clement. Like Nostradomis, he spoke vaguely, per chance. All true prophets of God in scripture spoke specifically. Don't believe the hype that Clement prophesied Trump! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPhnRUU04-I&feature=emb_logo
@TexasTruthTeller Sorry, I have to politely disagree with you here. Kim Clement was not a false prophet. The body of Christ needs to resist bashing the prophets right now. Faith is required to believe God for the impossible. There is a reason that the Israelites stoned the legitimate prophets sent by God. Let's not let history repeat itself. God bless you!
@Overcomer According to The Bible, apostles and prophets were for a specific time and place: the founding and establishing of the new testament church in Israel. According to what Paul wrote in 1 Cor.13, once the "perfect" has come, which is the complete canon of scripture, there was no more need for those gifts. So many excises and fraud have occurred under the false movement called "Pentecostalism". Why do you think they manipulate gullible fools into supporting their greed?
@TexasTruthTeller This is a lie. I challenge you to ask the Holy Spirit to speak to you... and wait on the Lord to hear his voice. You may be surprised. I have witnessed miracles and I currently operate in the giftings of the Holy Spirit. This lie you believe is keeping you from experiencing the fullness that Jesus has for you. May he heal your soul of the deep pain and wounds you have so you may experience the new wine of the Spirit of God.
@TexasTruthTeller The Holy Spirit lives in every believer. I simply see what is coming out of you. Anger and Pain. I pray you are healed by the love and comfort of God.
@Overcomer All you cite is personal experience. Like that supersedes what GOD says! I say what THE BIBLE says. Just like all involved in election fraud, you skirt around facts, instead label the one telling the truth as false. Yet you have no FACTUAL basis for that! My judgment is based on GOD'S WRITTEN WORD! What Jesus used to counter Satan's attacks (Matt.4:1-11). All you can give me is what you've "experienced". You expect me to believe that above scripture! Typical tactic of Satan!
@TexasTruthTeller The Pharisees accused Jesus of being Beezebul (Satan) Mark 3:22. You accuse me of being like Satan... So I'm in good company with Jesus. I know scripture very well. I could drop scripture all day long, but this is not a competition. I just want you to experience the baptism of the Holy Spirit (Luke 3:16 and Acts 1:5). I am done conversing with you now. I will pray for you and I hope you have a nice day. May God bless you with his love!
@Overcomer I challenge you to repent; get your heart right with God! If you believe your personal "experience" is to be taken above what "thus saith the LORD' in my Bible, you have a MAJOR problem spiritually! Just FYI, to show you don't know me nor what you're talking about; I was involved in the Charismaniac movement for over 17 years before God GLORIOUSLY delivered me out of that religious deception. Speaking in tongues, slain in the spirit, "healings", prophesying. Been there, done that!
@TexasTruthTeller I will not argue with you, but I will leave one final thought. The pain and abuse you've experienced is much deeper than I initially thought. You may have actually experienced the baptism of the Holy Spirit in the past, but all of the abuse has distorted the ligitimate encounter you've had with God. Though I am not responsible for what has happened to you, I am deeply sorry to hear of the pain and disillusionment you've encountered. I am sorry for passing any judgment... That was not my intent. I want to see the Body of Christ healed. I pray the Lord will heal your heart. ❤
@Overcomer By the way, I'm way ahead of you, asking the Holy Spirit to speak to me. I did that this morning, before I read my Bible. Guess what? He did! And NOW he's telling me that what I am getting from YOU is not of HIM, because it contradicts his written word, which HE never does! So I reject what you're saying, because again, YOU'RE NOT GOD! What you're into is the same kinda junk practiced by Hindus & New Agers. No thanks! I'll stick with JESUS and my Bible!
@Overcomer How is my believing what Jesus called "truth": THE WORD OF GOD; believing a lie? See what I mean? You contradict what SCRIPTURE says, because you're following the pattern set up by Lucifer (Satan); putting yourself and your "experience" above the authority of God's word! That's how this whole mess started in Eden! Satan conned Eve and Adam into hearkening unto what THE SERPENT said above what GOD commanded. They placed an EXPERIENCE: "ye shall be as gods" above God himself!
@Overcomer And how do you KNOW I have "deep pain and wounds"? Do you KNOW me? No! You're typical of other Charismaniacs I've challenged online. You guys always come up with the same junk. You refuse to deal with THE MESSAGE. Instead you SHOOT THE MESSENGER! You attack me, claiming you know so much about me, yet you don;t even KNOW me, which proves my point! In order for you to KNOW what you say you do about me, you would have to be GOD who alone knows the heart! Get off your God trip!