If you’re into internet privacy - this is fascinating. I planned to give him 3 minutes and he’s got me hooked…
https://open.spotify.com/episode/4q0cNkAHQQMBTu4NmeNW7E?si=rWBNcfFQSEemsl-9fLcpTA&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A4rOoJ6Egrf8K2IrywzwOMk