@sinbach Persecution is persecution. God's grace is there to meet each level, each time. Whether it's Watchman Nee, The Heavenly man, or the countless other's beaten and incarcerated in China, or a Baker, Pastor, etc. fined or jailed here in the West for following their Shepherd. In the end my opinion nor yours matter, what matters is whether our mutual Shepherd, who suffered more than all, is pleased.