@Knittinggrace That reminds me of my old buddy who was/is outspoken and loved to rock the boat in assemblies. He found out this one paid preacher was a card-carrying Mason in this tiny "church" he attended, so he exhorted him to renounce that tie. The man rebutted that it was not necessary because he no longer attended meetings or had much of anything to do with the Masons. But my friend kept after him and spread the word and showed disgust that that man was a Mason to people like me.