@KarMarJo57 Is it bondage, to obey your parents when you are a child? Is it bondage for a fish to not be able to walk on land? Is it bondage for us to do as the Lord said? If you fully believe that there will come a day that you will need any kind of meat that is available to survive, are you trusting the Lord? Did he not provide a way for his children in the wilderness to eat or to drink? If you trust him, could he not provide a way for you to not break his commandments?

@speakthetruth Fred, you are free in Christ not to eat pork. But the New Testament is clear, all meat is clean now if prayed for and received with thanksgiving. The Lord gave Peter the vision that all meats (& people) are clean now. Galatians speaks about going back under the law. The dietary directives of the New Testament are found in Acts: nothing strangled, no eating or drinking of blood, and abstain from fornication.

@KarMarJo57 This law is the law of sin and death as Christ has conquered death and sin. The concept of the law of sin and death is in the entire old testament, you sin you die. This is the law that was done away with. Do you follow Christ or Paul? I follow Christ and he says in Matthew 5 that the Law shall not pass away but that he came to fulfill (complete) it.

@speakthetruth It's an unsafe statement to say 'do we follow Christ or Paul.' Paul was endowed with the Holy Spirit to be one of the men to write the oracles of the new covenant life. God chose to give both an Old Testament law and a New Testament grace and mercy. They compliment each other. But the old is worthless without the new. The old is to prove our inability to be sanctified my our own efforts. The new provides the means for us to be like Christ and His power.

@KarMarJo57 Can a husband be a couple with out a wife? Or what about the other way around? Can the wife be a couple or get a family without a husband? The husband cannot say to his wife, "I can now have children so you are no longer needed". The husband and wife compliment each other and need each other. It is the same with the old testament law and new testament grace. 1 Peter 2:21 states that we are to follow Christ. Christ is our example how much more should we follow the example of our king?

@speakthetruth For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; BUT RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND PEACE, AND JOY IN THE HOLY GHOST...Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another. For meat destroy no the work of God. Romans 14:17 & 19

@KarMarJo57 Amen! that is a blessed verse to show what the kingdom of God is founded on. But does it hurt for us to obey the laws of our God as well as our king? As far as I am concerned, the law of God is supposed to bring blessings and it is also to be a sign as to who God's children are. Matthew 24:31; Mark 13:27. Have you ever wondered how his angels will know who are his? The 7th day sabbath for sure is one of the ways - Exodus 31:17 

@speakthetruth Ok. I wondered if you are a sabbath keeper too. This old testament dietary laws and sabbath keeping usually go together. I will say this and it will conclude our discussion for this time: the Christian jews met on the Sabbath. Christian gentiles met on the first day of the week which was the day the Lord rose from death. This is symbolic of the Old Testament and new. Bless you Fred. Keep seeking the Lord.

@KarMarJo57 Thank you. I wil keep seeking. What proof is there that the Christian Gentiles met on Sunday? Not only that, the sabbath was not just instituted. It was created. Blessings to you too. Keep seeking and press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.:) Again, May God bless you.
Iain

@KarMarJo57 I would agree that we should not condemn someone who does not know the scriptures and still eats wrong or disobeys other parts of God's word out of ignorance as that is what God's grace is for, but we should warn them so they can grow and learn more of our fathers ways.

@KarMarJo57 The only one who can have an oracle is God. an oracle is a Commandment from God directly. Yes, Paul did give commandments but, according to the noble Bereans it matched the scriptures which at that time, was just the old testament. Let's do the same and see if what he said is in line with what our father said. Not to mention, Paul is not our king. The Messiah is and so I want to follow the one who has the same authority as his father.

@KarMarJo57 Romans 7:16 ; 1 Timothy 1:8; Psalms 19:7, all of these state that the law is Good. So if you look at these verses then read 1 Timothy 4:4, you can conclude that the clean meats are good too. 2 Corinthians 6:14 - 18 also brings out that the unclean foods should be abstained from. God views eating unclean things on the same level as fornication.

@KarMarJo57 Also, what part of forever do we not understand? when he says that these things shall be and ordinance FOREVER, why do we not listen to it? God repeatedly punished his children in the OT and would have destroyed them several times if it had not been for others interceding on their behalf and for the longsufferingness of God. Then in the NT, he encourages disobedience to his word??? How can this be?

@KarMarJo57 Galatians 1 is in reference to the people going to Gnosticism. They were following others who had different ideas as to what the Good news was. Yes I have seen others who have started down this walk and have denied that Jesus is our salvation. This is falling from grace. But it does not have to be this way.

@KarMarJo57 Also read Acts 10:28 as this is the context around the vision that Peter had. He explicitly says that it is in regards to humans. Does God change? If not, does his word? I also find joy in doing as my father in heaven has commanded just as I find safety in doing as my earthly father advises. The word law in the Bible means fence and if you do not do as got says you are out of line just like a naughty child, right?

@speakthetruth Even meats offered to idols can be eaten if the Christian's conscience is strong in Christ but if a brother could be stumbled, we are to abstain for other's sake. And this is true for any freedom. And I surely won't serve pork to you little brother :).

@KarMarJo57 Now as for this verse on receiving meat with thanks giving. Does it mention clean or unclean meats? Neither! So this can not be said that it applies to unclean foods, in fact, if you read the verse before it it brings out the impression that it is meat in general and that would have been in relation to people like vegans, etc.