@KarMarJo57 @OilPainter Amen. How sad. I asked the young men in my church today, " what would you do if our fathers and men in the church were taken away today? If communism were to happen today as it did in the USSR"... (A man and his wife in our church were children from Ukraine during the IC) "what would we as a church do? Let's prepare ourselves young men to lead as this fellowship will need us when that happens." It is not about if but when it happens.