@erdenpilger, How do you explain, or explain away, 1 Corinthians 12:28?

@xixiangdong well, let me point to
- 1Cor 12:28 (certain gifts will cease)
- Mt 7:22,23 (end times apostasy)
- or Eph 2:20 (Apostles and Prophets are the foundation upon which the Church is built. You don't build more foundations on the foundation...)
-signs and wonders as a verification for the gospel
- Heb 2:4 (gifts already in the past!)

The verse you mention fits the above, when you take it as truth for that specific time.

That's what I can think of right now...

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@erdenpilger 1 corinthians 12:28 does not say gifts have ceased. It says in the church their are apostles and prophets. If you're going to say certain Scriptures don't apply today, which is a very dangerous doctrine, which is not found in Scripture, you need to prove it. You can't just wave your hands and say, "that time has passed". By the way, 1 Cor. 13 is not that proof but our proof, which you mis-referenced as 1 Cor. 12:28

@xixiangdong I personally am okay with both views for the moment. So let's just leave it at that, amen?

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