@KarlGessler Thank you for sharing this sad experience. I'll be praying for your family and I feel so closed to Susie because I know how it feels like! I passed through that myself four years ago. But I can tell you that in those moments I felt the presence of the Lord so closed! Big time! I can share with you that the moment I was losing my baby The Lord gave me a vision, a real one, the only one I've ever had. The ceiling of the bathroom opened and I saw the Lord Jesus smiling at me with my child in His arms! That gave me a real comfort and strength, and I knew for sure that my baby is in Heaven and I will meet him one day! Be Blessed and encouraged because with God's Grace you and your wife are doing a great job with your family for the Lord.