@sinbach @bethany
great podcast - that was fab!

you both do yourselves much credit in how you discuss this issue (but I never heard much disagreement)

there is so much i'd love to say, but won't (1,000 characters isn't enough for me, anyway), except than I'm reminded of Jesus taking the whip into the temple. He took time to make & craft it. His reaction was considered - but much we see around men v women is reactive, which is never healthy

you'll offend people no matter what, on this topic, but it NEEDS to be spoken of: I totally agree the 'church' has become very female orientated, & that men need to step up. but it isn't easy when society/church tells them not to

Eugene, you stated so much I agree with/think - you remind me of me lol ! ie we also sold the home we owned (15 years ago), in faith, & don't regret the cruelty from others, or the complexities it created

excellent job, both of you!

& @bethany - your words prompted me that I really must do that video on reverence!