@Chidiotamiri I didn't think of that. OK. But there it was God who spoke, not our Spirit.

I doubt you can use this to broaden up the use of tongues that far, but you know my position by now. ;)

@Chidiotamiri I'd like to stick to what the Bible says and not peoples 'experience'.

Mysteries are called mysteries for the reason that the person speaks things in a language unknown to him/herself. That should be evident.

It doesn't have anything to do with politics, science or other worldly activities you mention. It it for HIM. Not for US.

Stick to what is written, that's my humble advice to you.

@Chidiotamiri Wow.
Certainly the gift that you describe is NOT the gift the Bible speaks of but a counterfeit.

Read the Word. It's pretty clear what the 'biblical' gift of tongues is for - and what it is NOT for.

@sarikorpi how longsuffering can God be?! Seeing this insanity, bearing it. Still patiently waiting. I cannot imagine.

But one thing is sure: Judgement is coming over your country and mine and so many others if there is no repentance.

@weavers4jesus this is soo evil. And our country praises China for it's 'effective' measures.

May the Lord strengthen you and your family and your son's. He will come back and judge in righteousness. Perfect righteousness.

@sarikorpi yes. That's what I see too; and probably every sincere Christian. The difference between light and darkness becomes more visible the nearer we get to the end.

@paga4 the description given us from the Bible doesn't fit a single state. It's a global entity.

@tanjaostman
@sarikorpi

Sillä minä olen Herra, joka en muutu; ja te Jakobin lapset, ette ole hukkuneet.

Good day to you and your families!

And on that day when my strength is failing
The end draws near and my time has come
Still, my soul will sing Your praise unending
Ten thousand years and then forevermore

m.youtube.com/watch?v=xiiWaDw2BrI

Our souls will sing Your praise unending! You are worthy, Jesus Christ, our Brother, Lord and King; for You have made us righteous by Your own blood!
You will make us sing also! halleluJah!

@faith20 I usually don't open links that have no description.
The Lord made me open this one...

...

@Knittinggrace I didn't know all of that. Very sorry to hear. Yet, this statement is a big step for all those instituted churches. A big step in the right direction that is and a basis for all to help arguing.
May God help us all in our personal holiness in these last days.

For the sake of Christ and His Church:

The of Christian & Civil Liberties

frankfurtdeclaration.com
August 2022

by
Dr. Voddie Baucham
Dr. James Coates
Tim Conway
Dr. John MacArthur
Warren McKenzie
Dr. James White
Douglas Wilson

and many many other faithful Christians.

Thomas again (I love this guy)

A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of a higher obligation...To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly
sacrificing the ends to the means.”

(Thomas Jefferson, Letter to J.B. Colvin, September 20, 1780)

[When the people fear their government, there is tyranny;
when the government fears the people, there is liberty!]
(him also)

@sarikorpi
"Jesus answered, My is : if my kingdom were of this world , then would my servants fight , that I should not be delivered to the Jews : but now is my kingdom not from hence ."

John 18:36

anyone need a good read?
founders.archives.gov/document

"I will add that the man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them; inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods & errors..."

Thomas Jefferson

(what a character to write such a letter!)

@Justinmartyr the Church is very much alive today as it was throughout the ages. But many 'churches' aren't 'Churches' if you know what I mean...

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